Catholic Church abuse vs Systematic Islamic Rape Culture

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The Catholic Church gets a lot of shtick from society about boy fondling… and honestly, rightly so.

I see many arguments coming from the Islamic defenders about how Catholic priests molest boys as sort of an equal/worse counter to the atrocities that Muslims perform.

But think about it; Muslims perform female genital mutilation on girls, they marry girls off, they molest children, boys and girls, and murder them, among many other filthy, evil acts. Yet still somehow Father whatshisname is more the villain because he touched an alter boy on a church camp.

Don’t get me wrong, both are unforgivable and should be punished. I have no mercy in my heart for the men who broke the innocence of boys, driving them away from God and even to suicide. I have no forgiveness for those who covered it up.

The sins of the Catholic Church have been restricted to those in positions of influence whom, by choice of their own, can’t get their rocks off in wedlock. The sins of the Islamic world are rampant across the majority of male members, and encouraged by the Stockholm-Syndrome-wives who accept the actions as normal.

The two crimes are not equal, and never will be, as is the argument of KKK vs Islam.

  • OneFatOzGuy

    I’ve honestly got to laugh when people bring this up when muslims rape little girls. They try to claim “we’re not much better” when:
    a) that abuse occurred in a minority of priests in the faith
    b) the abuse occurred decades ago, but the media is hell bent on bringing it up at every chance
    c) the church has put in place systems to make sure it never happens again

    To which I then go on to point out:
    a) These aren’t muslims in positions of power committing these crimes, they’re everyday muslim men.
    b) These crimes are still happening every day, with no sign of stopping.
    c) The countries where these abuses happen will most likely blame the victim for being raped, thereby ensuring the next guy who feels like doing the same thing has NO INCENTIVE not to.

    Of course, everybody wants Pell to stand trial for the 4th, 5th, etc, time for his alleged role decades ago, yet NO ONE talks about the private Jewish school where the school board flew the accused FEMALE principal, who had abused several Jewish school girls a couple of years ago, to the safety of Israel where she is safe from extradition. The school was fined $1 million for perverting the course of justice after the principal was found guilty in absentia, but, unlike Pell, the media hasn’t named a SINGLE MEMBER OF THAT BOARD who actively got her out of the country.

    So the lesson is this: if you want to abuse children, you need to be either Jewish or Muslim. The first will be barely reported in the papers, even if it’s against other Jews, the second will be forgiven by society because “the Catholic church covered that sort of thing up for years!”

    • Warty2

      Well, one might add the Uniting Church to this list, because, though much smaller than the Catholic Church, per capita they have indulged in far more child abuse than the Catholic clergy, yet the media keeps public firmly on the Catholics, the ABC in particular.
      I agree with your comments about the Muzzies, but one female Jewish principal? Come on now!
      Warty.

      • Karen Dwyer

        From external observation, there appears to be a schism between “official” UC hierarchy* “progressive” (regressive!!) approach and “the rest of the church”. Similar to the Salvation Army, whose hierarchy came out (as it were) in support of “Safe Schools”.

        One of the horrors in all of this is that this is so obviously contrary to the teachings of Jesus. Yet some have learned to mimic Christianity (in a form of religiosity); it’s important to note when the audio and video don’t match, because the depraved will make a determined course to infiltrate places where people are “too nice” to be wise.

        *(even though it is supposedly non-hierarchy, the ruling leftists are evident in the UCA: witness the media attack on Margaret Court from a staff member of the oddly named “University of Divinity”).

        • Warty2

          What an informative response. I had no idea the Salvation Army had come out in favour of the Safe Schools programme. They were once a conservative institution.
          That so many of the church hierarchy should have become ‘progressive’ doesn’t surprise me in the least, as they too have been through universities, and we know to what extent they’ve been infiltrated. I like your ‘too nice to be wise’ phraseology.
          Warty.

          • Karen Dwyer

            Thank you. I recall reading that the Salvation Army, and some Presbyterian and Baptist centres in the U.S. are becoming increasingly liberal (part of the “emerging church”, off on their own tangent). The endorsement of “Safe Schools” by the Salvation Army (Victoria), I learned from this site:
            https://billmuehlenberg.com

            Coincidentally, given the recent XYZ article re “Strange Bedfellows”, this quote from a recent Culture Watch article:
            “if we can’t get Christians with enough guts and intelligence and non-PC views to stand up in the public square and declare truth, then I will happily take non-Christians who will. If the church is failing in its duties, then God can raise up stones to speak truth.

            Give us some bold Christian truth–proclaimers Lord, or give us more stones.”
            From:

            https://billmuehlenberg.com/2017/06/16/truth-stones-non-christians-getting-right/

          • Warty2

            Thanks for the link, Karen. In a sense, what the Culture Watch article is speaking about is already happening: it’s the subliminal mutterings that are beginning to emerge. There is a growing awareness, starting in Britain, extending to America, and here, that the establishment is not serving our interests.
            We, meaning you and I, have read the responses to so many of the articles in this publication. I submit articles to the Cattalaxy Files, as ‘Warty’ and TruthJournalism as ‘Olam’ (a Hebrew word meaning ‘eternity’ or ‘timelessness’) and I read most of the articles in Quadrant and engage in the readers’ debates, again as Warty. So I know what the conservative responses are like, and there is a definite sense of momentum, and most of these responses are from non-Christians.
            So, with regards to the stones, and stones are an important Biblical motif (use your Cruden’s Concordance to check the number of references in both Testaments). The Luke reference represents ‘nature’ itself. It is unnatural for swathes of people to regard themselves as ‘citizens of the world’ rather than citizens of their own country first and foremost.
            It is unnatural for males and females to seek to change their gender. Arch-feminist, Camille Paglia, is quoted as saying “The cold biological truth is that sex changes are impossible. Every single cell of the human body remains coded with one’s birth gender for life.” The interesting thing here being that she is of the left, and a major contributor to the gender wars we are experiencing here and now.
            I could go on and on about the ‘unnatural’ things happening in the Western world, that are simply creating the cultural vacuum for Islam to fill. But the point is, in so many of the conservative articles to be found on the internet, both writer and reader alike is invariably non-Christian.
            Things are not right, so the mutterings are beginning to reach crescendo levels.
            When Nature is out of balance, then she will seek to restore the equilibrium.
            Warty.

          • Karen Dwyer

            So many interesting things for me to follow up: (places you write, which reminds me I’ve been out of the loop & have some of Moewe’s writing to re-visit); stones (what comes to mind first is living stones, capstone, corner stone, Urim and Thummim, the temptation to turn stones into bread, the challenge to throw Himself down to the stones below, white stone with new name on. And I could go on. I’d never really thought too much about the links in that theme before.); and current momentum.

            This latter, particularly linked with nature, made me think about the passage “whole of creation groaning…”

            I’ve copied Romans 8:18-23, as it expresses that sense of momentum you refer to:
            “I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God. We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies.”

            Actually the whole chapter expresses that sense of anticipation, momentum, imminence, excitement, sometime frustration, and pushing through to a worthwhile end that Paul uses as an analogy.

            I appreciate you having given me so much to think about.

          • Warty2

            The Romans passage is not quite what I was suggesting. What I was alluding to was more along the lines of the Cain and Able story, where the elder murders the younger brother, possible one of the most appalling crimes, other than patricide or matricide. So unnatural was the act that the very earth itself cried out: ‘the voice of your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground’.
            Now I’m not at all superstitious, but I’ve been to a few spooky places, where the history of the place is somehow etched into its fabric. One was an area near Lake Bala, in Wales, which my wife and I drove through at sunset. We both felt thoroughly unnerved and were mightily relieved to get well out of there. The other was a convict era prison lock-up, in Richmond, Tasmania, and my wife in particular was overwhelmed by the sense of misery that seemed to coat the building both inside and out.
            My analogy here may seem even more a ‘stretch’ but the argument is still that those things that are unnatural, brutal, unjust will find a way of speaking out: the time span is irrelevant.
            Warty.

          • Karen Dwyer

            Yes, I see.

            It’s partly that sense of creation suffering and protesting due to the violence it has witnessed (NOT in the way Gaia-worshippers would mean that) which led me to Romans. But I think there is a certain awareness among non-Christians that there is a momentum or crescendo currently. It depends on one’s worldview as to what that momentum is leading to.

            I agree that some places seem to absorb (and thereafter radiate) events. There are definitely “cold chill” or tangibly evil places. Happily, there are also places that radiate goodness, too. Mr Dwyer and I were married in a particular church which became our “home” church, because when we went in (after the congregation had come out), it was evident that holy people had been there. Not easy to describe, but palpable.

          • Warty2

            Indeed, it works both ways. One of the things one notices, when visiting cathedrals and churches in England and Europe, that after centuries of worship, that atmosphere is still there, despite a decline in attendances.

    • You are absolutely right. Being Muslim or Jewish means you are a protected species.
      Criticise one and you are called anti semitic.
      Criticise the other and you are called a racist Islamophobe.
      Humanity would be better off without either of these disgusting permutations of homo sapiens.

  • Warty2

    I tend to equivocate between optimism and doubt; hope and, well not despair, but more confusion. I know that the radical left is out to tear down most of the institutions that we associate with our Western way of life, starting with the church, the family, education and the judiciary.
    We have been reading about the three Liberal politicians who criticised the Victorian judiciary for being soft on those accused of terrorism.
    Their administration of both bail and probation has been a national disgrace, so much so the public has lost all confidence in the judiciary.
    We have also learnt a little about their political leanings through The Australian, and one is confirmed in one’s beliefs that the system is stacked against our entire heritage, not just conservatism that seeks to preserve it.
    So the sustained attacks on George Pell fits the pattern, and the hatred towards the Catholic Church is far more intense than that of the more ‘progressive’ Uniting Church, despite the fact that there have been far more child molestation charges brought against the Uniting Church, per capita (the Catholic Church is far larger) and yet we hear next to nothing about it.
    The irony is that the Royal Commission into child abuse did not include Islamic institutions in its inquiry, and yet evidence has been coming to light that the degree of child abuse, including female genital mutilation, something that is illegal here, is possibly enormous. One can only conjecture at this stage, quite simply because no inquiry has been called for, so we have to rely on anecdotal evidence, word of mouth, which is not sufficient in itself.
    The question is why is this so? Could it be that the left is soft on Islam, because they have a common purpose? Could that common purpose be the final overthrow of Western Civilisation itself?
    Just imagine the left is successful and they pose as the trojan horse to allow Islam to set up Sharia law. Guess who will be the first to be thrown off tall buildings; left dangling from construction cranes; beheaded in our city squares? You guessed it: our social justice warriors. Of that alone, I won’t be all that sorry. Call it just deserts.
    Warty.

    • Ralphy

      My view is that they both hate the West passionately and because Islam is viewed as a much maligned underdog by our all knowing, betters they make a perfect match. Until the endgame of course as you rightly point out. The Witch in the Gingerbread House in Hansel and Gretel scenario seems particularly apt.

      My most sincere and perhaps most naiive hope is that I get to to believe in a principled politician/leader who places this country and its prosperity first always, and never their own personal success or reward. The recent donations scandals from foreign governments have exposed the rot at the core of so very many of them, influence bought and paid for.

      A golden opportunity has arisen in the last few days for me to undergo an epiphany. I would implore those 3 politicians to stand their ground and refuse to withdraw their criticisms, even going to gaol for their “contempt” if so ordered. Perhaps then, just perhaps, the commoner could have real touchstone champions of principle for a change.

      Politicians we could actually look up to and support to drive through a badly needed reform in which community values are paramount, not just an ignored afterthought superceded by the latest ideological bent. The overweening sanctimony of the Judiciary needs reform, the conga line of political activists appointed to the Bench who can “interpret” the law as they please needs to stop. I will cheer from the rooftops when Judges face the people in elections making them truly accountable for their decisions.

      • Warty2

        Brilliant Ralph. I’d love to hear more of this ‘golden opportunity has arisen in the last few days for me to undergo an epiphany’.
        Warty.

  • Catholic Church kiddy fiddlers and Muslim child rapists do have something in common.
    They both deserve to hang from a noose,no exceptions https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/259038554dedb056e6189ae6a74d2839e1f9dd99affebd76a55a823b3c0de8e7.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/502e18d482b382108925366ae80a5d22681934094800663f02f5188a6028f1a8.jpg