The special Christian sodomite club

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Over at Sigmaframe there is an article up concerning how The Church should best deal with homosexuals who identify as Christians. The article, Can Christians be Gay, is best exemplified by its conclusions. Bold emphasis is mine.

“Homosexuality is one of the main challenges faced by most churches these days. In response to this crisis, many pastors are following the cultural trend by pressing all the members of their congregation to accept and interact with gays. There are two problems with this approach.

  1. Many straight Christians simply have very little sympathy for either the gay lifestyle, or the struggles of being a gay Christian, and for many of the faithful, no amount of preaching is going to change this. The result is that gays feel condemned by the annoyance of Christians, and do not experience Christ through their interactions with Christians.
  2. Many straight Christians simply do not have a need to interact with gays. Expecting them to do so, purportedly to become more “loving“, is actually detrimental and burdensome to the spiritual vitality of both straight and gay individuals.”

In other words, those pesky Christians who hold to the word of God are most tiresome indeed for all those gays who just want to be loved by everybody. Not only that but gays’ spiritual vitality will be weakened by having to even interact with those pesky straights. Just what is to be done?

“There are two things that the Church can do to improve their work for Christ, concerning homosexuals.

  1. The Church’s interaction with the gay community should be the sole responsibility of Christians in the church who were formerly gay. Straight Christians will surely bumble the PR, and cause the name of Christ to be blasphemed among the LGBT crowd.
  2. Based on 2nd Corinthians 1:3-7, the task of ministering to gays should be left to the discretion of those reformed gay Christians within the church.

Following the last point, repentant gay Christians would be best qualified to administer an appropriate hermeneutical interpretation of scripture to other gays under their mentorship. Even so, any “reinterpretation” of scripture should not be comprehensively different from the Gospel of Christ.”

Apparently nobody gets the gays except for those experienced with being gay. It’s such a unique and special sin that all the rest of humanity is simply unequipped to deal with such a delicate matter.

This nonsense is subtle propaganda pushed by the homo bloc. They’re not really sinners like those other sinners; they’re special people deserving of special treatment.

Well, they’re not and this is complete rubbish. To best answer the oh so pressing and difficult problem of the homos amongst us, I shall simply re-post the above screed but I shall substitute the sin of being a homosexual fornicator with some other sin. Let’s see how it reads, shall we.

There are two things that the Church can do to improve their work for Christ, concerning rapists.

  1. The Church’s interaction with the rape community should be the sole responsibility of Christians in the church who were formerly rapists. Straight Christians will surely bumble the PR, and cause the name of Christ to be blasphemed among the rapist crowd.
  2. Based on 2nd Corinthians 1:3-7, the task of ministering to rapists should be left to the discretion of those reformed rapist Christians within the church.

Following the last point, repentant rapist Christians would be best qualified to administer an appropriate hermeneutical interpretation of scripture to other rapists under their mentorship. Even so, any “reinterpretation” of scripture should not be comprehensively different from the Gospel of Christ.”

Feel free to substitute other well known sins. Murderers would be a good one, as well as thieves, adulterers, blasphemers, and you get the picture.

The complete ludicrousness of worrying about “PR” in such a situation becomes readily apparent after the substitution. As bad as this is it doesn’t even come close to what is being pushed in the name of the Christian homos in other parts of the world.

“Allberry and Butterfield argue that gays deserve access to our children because intimacy with our children is the reward Jesus promised them for following Him, to make up for the intimacy they are giving up by leaving the gay lifestyle. Back in 2015 Chandler laid the foundation for this as well. He says that gay Christians are special because by giving up the gay lifestyle they have given up more than the rest of us.”

Homosexuals are not special; they are fallen. If they repent, accept salvation, and cast off their sins then they shall be welcomed back into His house. But they do not get welcomed back under their own special conditions. And they most certainly do not deserve any special treatment due to their prior sinful nature.

To understand how perverse this attitude is, just contemplate that all an individual has to do to suddenly receive special treatment above other Christians in the eyes of God is to declare himself a sodomite. By such an act he is suddenly special. Nobody else in The Church can possibly relate to him unless they themselves were also a member of the special sodomite club in the past. Perhaps they should also get to sit in the special pews up the front with all of the other ex-sodomites, or not so ex-sodomites but heh, we can’t be judgemental because we’re Christians and we need to suck this up, right?

Sooner or later a stand has to be made. This one is as bad as any.

This article was originally published at https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/, where Adam Piggott publishes regularly and brilliantly. You can purchase Adam’s books here.

Photo by Tony Webster

  • cunt blogger

    Handling of homosexuals is one area Islam has it over christians. The roof top push is a much cleaner and more dignified resolution for all involved.

    • A deplorable NNYer

      Flying lessons, flying lessons with no parachute form a 6th floor building!

  • Repeal fake marriage

    Great article Adam. I cannot abide Christian acquiescence to homosexuality. It is so perverted and unnatural that acceptance defies not only Biblical scriptures but one’s own soul. The people killing gays/perverts are not those who oppose them. It is those who accept and legitimise perversion. The maintenance of disgusting only leads to more disgusting, unhappiness, drug addiction and suicide.

    • Andrew Thompson

      I’m a neat freak, pretty content with life, too much of a cheapskate to do drugs and I’ve never contemplated suicide

      Mostly i just help out with whatever my family is doing, look for work and read books

      • Repeal fake marriage

        Were you tampered with at a young age? I ask because in conversation with a lesbian some years ago, I stated my firm belief that most if not all homosexuals were interfered with in their younger years, thus normalizing it. She emphatically agreed with me. (She hung out in the gay scene obviously exposing her to many homosexuals.)

        • Andrew Thompson

          I wasn’t, so I can’t speak to that

          • Andrew Thompson

            i’ve always been asocial, so i’ve never had much exposure either

        • Jamie Blank

          Nonsense. Homosexuality is inbuilt from birth. Facts don’t care about your feelings.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_birth_order_and_male_sexual_orientation

          • entropy

            Gay lobby propaganda. The biological imperative argument is as ignorant as tabula rasa.

            It’s well established that human behaviour is a combination of both biological and environmental influences. Many homosexuals openly admit there was an element of choice in their formative sexuality.

            “Born this way” was a misinformation campaign designed to minimise the ‘responsibility’ of gays for being gay.

          • Andrew Thompson

            all choices have a biological component though

          • entropy

            All behaviour. That’s the consensus of decades of research.

            Studies show that identical twins separated at birth don’t have parity in sexuality. That alone is proof that sexuality isn’t genetic.

          • Andrew Thompson

            there are still predispositions though

          • entropy

            The biological component of behaviour could certainly be interpreted as a genetic predisposition.

            Not to draw a moral equivalence, but the same could be said of paedophilia. To what extent do predispositions excuse us of our behaviours?

          • Andrew Thompson

            What excuses something and what doesn’t is pretty arbitrary, which is why I care more abut description

          • Bucky Redux

            “The lady doth protest too much, methinks”

          • Bucky Redux

            Jamie Null n Void…. lol, quotes Wikipedia as a reliable source, why not find some stuff from snopes whilst your still masturbating.

          • Jamie Blank

            Masturbating? Seriously. I haven’t don’t that for years. Everytime I feel the need I just call for the Mrs to sort it out. She’s never far away. My only problem is that I’m forever telling her to put the vacuum cleaner down. She’s always walking between the bedroom and the kitchen with the vacuum in hand.

          • Bucky Redux

            Womans place is kitchen or bedroom.
            She seems well trained.

          • A deplorable NNYer

            Homosexuality is in built, but gender is a social construct. And if you believe that, then I have some great beach front property in Kansas to sell you!

          • Jamie Blank

            Gender is biological.
            Boys have a penis & girls have a vagina.

            Sorry, I’ll pass on that property.

    • Jamie Blank
  • Jai_Normosone

    The interesting thing about homosexuality is that people are involved. Every one of them is different and has different views on what part of the Christianity applies to them; what they do in their private lives; which part of their private lives they decide to bring out into the open whether it be narcissism or repentance; what they think is acceptable when it comes to swapping partners or the use of drugs; and how the feel that the rest of society feels about them.

    From my perspective, my problem with it is the medical issues it creates some shoving something/having something shoved up through which should only ever be an exit door. The needing to wear Depends much, much sooner than someone who would normally experience incontinence as a result of age instead of the weakening of muscles to hold that shit in.

    Then there is the female perspective where you get the Champagne Lesbians who are that way because it’s trendy and forget that don’t like cock when they get drunk and fob it off as a females prerogative to change her mind at any time without any reason. You see a lot of hot women who go this route because they’ve been treated like shit far too many times by the deadshits they chose to hang around with (faux bad-boys with their “tough-stickers” (tattoos) and inability to contribute anything useful to society other than becoming mulch.
    The rest appear to be the women-in-comfortable-shoes types with one having a butch haircut and clobber that makes them look more male than anything else.

    • Andrew Thompson

      Not all gay people engage in anal sex

      I only ever do oral personally

      • Repeal fake marriage

        Too much info.

      • Jai_Normosone

        Not being of that persuasion, I cannot say what the majority do. I can only discuss the medical side effects because that is the only proven aspect that I can mention and discuss.

        If you want to go and stick one of those things in your gob with the potential that it’s been stirring goo that nature decides is waste, then that’s your decision. I’ve seen people eat dog food mixed with beer and cornflakes for a bet – and I ain’t sticking that shit in my mouth either.

        Then again, considering the hetero version of going down where a bloke may mistakenly get a crusty dose of week-old porridge, there’s no real high ground here.

    • Jamie Blank

      Champagne Lesbians are in your mind. They’re just telling you that they don’t want sex with you. Grow a set and get laid.

      • Jai_Normosone

        Well, shit… I knew that!
        Sheilas never want to get boned by someone who has a job and a house and a future! Jeez… What rock have you been living under? 🙂

        I could say that it was easy for me to get a root in the town in grew up but it was annoying to have to get off the bucket to walk around to kiss her – and you might believe me 😀

        The fact is that I have a low tolerance for bullshit – and the girls provide it in spades.

  • Bucky Redux

    Most men of the cloth seem to be entrenched homo kiddy rapers to begin with, so I imagine they welcome more of the same into their flock.
    Hello George Pell.

    • Repeal fake marriage

      Only a Catholic proclivity as far as I know. And the entirety of Islamic menfolk.

  • Jamie Blank

    “To understand how perverse this attitude is, just contemplate that all an individual has to do to suddenly receive special treatment above other Christians in the eyes of God is to declare himself a sodomite.”

    Didn’t the Catholic Church deal with this by implementing the Sacrament of Holy Orders?

  • fimbulwinter

    The true Church as practiced in Russia has no problem with fags. They simply do not exist.

    Homosexuality has no evolutionary basis. It’s unnatural and a modern concept. The direct consequence of years of forced Cultural Marxist doctrine and materialistic hedonism.

    • fimbulwinter

      The Roman Catholic Church is a corrupt globaliat perversion.

    • Jamie Blank

      There is an evolutionary reason for it, otherwise it would have been removed from the gene pool tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of years ago. It’s quite easy to view it as a natural part of evolutionary biology when you abstract up a level from individual genetics to groups level genetics.

      https://youtu.be/hYzU-DoEV6k

      • entropy

        At face value, the evolutionary purpose of homosexuality would be to remove particular gene sets from the gene pool by denying them reproduction.

        This would make homosexuality a natural, even desirable process, and conversion evolutionarily counterproductive. However, it’s a big problem for gay acceptance rhetoric and especially gay access to assisted reproduction.

        • Andrew Thompson

          The thing i though, even if I don’t reproduce, I have 5 other siblings, so chances are that at least one of them will

          • entropy

            But they don’t have the same generic profile.

          • Andrew Thompson

            between all of them they probably have all of my alleles

        • Jamie Blank

          At face value, the evolutionary purpose is to assist the group to survive.

          • entropy

            That’s the evolutionary purpose of everything. We’re talking about one specific trait. In this case, it eliminates undesirable genes from the population. Are you familiar with natural selection?

          • Jamie Blank

            Yes I am familiar with natural selection. By way of your interpretation it appears that your understanding of evolutionary biology is 50-100 years behind the times. The ideas of Dawkins are nearly 50 years old, science has moved on.

          • Bucky Redux

            Ah, so the “science is settled.”

          • Jamie Blank

            No. The science is moving on.

          • Bucky Redux

            Oh, so the science is moving on, to claim that homosexuality & butt fucking is the norm, and heterosexuals are the true deviants.
            Next step is to normalise Pedo activity.
            Twisted shit, by twisted perverts.

          • Jamie Blank

            Bloody hell. You sound as stupid as those evangelical climate changers who stand on street corners waving their Greenpeace propaganda while begging you to give them money to save the gay whales.

          • Bucky Redux

            You seem awfully interested in Homosexuality, Jamie Zero.
            Judging by your adolescent chattering, it seems you have some (unrequited ?) “leanings” toward a bit of turd burgling and pillow biting. Emerging from the closet ? Airing the laundry ?

          • Jamie Blank

            Nah, not for me. I’ve been asked if I wanted a ghey blow job and what not, but, it’s not for me. I much prefer to munch on the carpet before cutting the cake with my knife. Always have, always will.

          • Bucky Redux

            All good. Watch out for cooties in the carpet.

          • A deplorable NNYer

            Cream pies anyone?

          • A deplorable NNYer

            I thought that was how black babies were made?

          • entropy

            Says the guy who can’t follow a simple conversation about evolution.

          • Andrew Thompson

            what is and isn’t beneficial is often circumstantial

            Also, it may not be deleterious alleles, but rather deleterious combinations of alleles

          • entropy

            Where benefit is circumstantial, evolution seems to leave survival up to the species’ interaction with the environment. It doesn’t make species functionally sterile where a trait could be circumstantially beneficial.

            But you’re correct regarding combinations/profiles.

        • fimbulwinter

          It also implies that homosexualsare genetically inferior which is a big no no in the hyper politically correct gay supremacist agenda.

      • fimbulwinter

        Its an evolutionary dead end as it does not reproduce. There is no “born with it” as it’s socially induced. You could argue that is genetic as it weeds out betas from the gene pool but even that is a stretch. The fact that one cannot connect two “seatbelts” and in order to do so, one has to invent artificial methods proves it was never designed by nature.

        • Jamie Blank

          Again. At the group level it is an evolutionary trait that assists the group to survive. Looking at the individual level only, it makes no sense, yet it still exists and survives in hostile desert living ideologies groups such as islam. The question then, is why does it continue to exist after hundreds of millions of years of evolution. The current line of thought is that group level evolution allows it to survive in the gene pool. This line of thought is at the forefront of evolutionary biology. Watch that Dawkins / Weinstein video.

  • MichaelJohnson

    Homosexuality is not a special struggle, any more than my fight against braking in the middle of the road to block the car that’s tailgating me or against ogling the near-naked women (a lot of them) walking past me at the shops or against abusing Christians who support every leftist talking point as though it were God-breathed scripture.

    Everyone who follows Christ has to war against the flesh and die to their own desires. God considers us in our own fight, not in comparison to everyone else’s.

  • I wonder if they have a similar article regarding Islam?

    The bible is clear on faggotry, don’t be a faggot.

    If gays want to be Christians they need to stop committing acts of homosexuality and the Left need to keep their opinions to themselves.

    By their own logic only Christians have the right to comment on gays and Christianity and since you can’t be gay and a Christian that leaves them shit outa luck.

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    • Jai_Normosone

      There is an excellent bit on The Pickering Post about things like this and how the Left try to use their versions of scripture as arguments to support their ’cause’.

      http://pickeringpost.com/story/jesus-to-get-immigration-portfolio-in-surprise-reshuffle-/8718

      The best part is the para:
      “Ironically many of these people personally reject any authority or validity of Scripture in their personal lives – it’s just something they pretend has authority when they ignorantly assume it supports their position.”

      • Repeal fake marriage

        The New Testament is very clear on homo behaviour as well. So at what ‘point in time’ did the relevancy of the Testaments change?

        • Jai_Normosone

          Is it?
          Please share.
          (Yes, this means that I don’t know where and would like to be educated 🙂 )

          • Repeal fake marriage

            Romans 1:26-27 specific to homosexuality

            There are others that do not come straight to mind but they are there.

            1 Corinthians 5 is An example of a no BS approach to sexual immorality and how the Church should judge it. Expulsion. Without apology. With judgement.

          • Jai_Normosone

            Thank you for that – and you are correct.
            The point I make is that if the scriptures refer to it, it means expulsion or excommunication – not death. The person is allowed to live albeit without the connection to the church and their Savior.

            The Bible may have conflicting passages or ones that aren’t easily explained but they work together and one doesn’t necessarily override the other.

            When it comes to the Quran, the thing that many forget or even realise is something called ‘Abrogation’. This means that if a passage comes later that contradicts the earlier, then the later message is the one that matters and the earlier is disregarded. THIS is the reason why, when an Imam or (supposed-)”Scholar” speaks about ‘peace’ in the Quran, they are lying. They are clearly and purposefully intending to deceive anyone who is listening. This is fact. It’s not hearsay nor open to interpretation.

            So, when it comes to abrogation, of the passages in the Quran that came to be as their first appearance, there were roughly 270-ish messages of peace and 480-ish messages of hate.

            Every. Single. One. of the passages of peace have been abrogated with a passage of hate. Not a single one of the passages of hate have been abrogated with a passage of peace.

            This means that, without a word of a lie, the Quran has become a book of hate with more hatred for Jews, kaffirs and dhimmis, word for word, than Mein Kampf.

            This means that, unequivocally, Islam is a religion of HATE.

            Christianity, on the other hand (and when not corrupted by power-mongers in skirts) is one of peace and how to live as a productive and useful human being. I’m not a practising anything and even I know this.

          • Repeal fake marriage

            According to scripture, homosexuals still have the mercy of God’s grace available to them. This is not something that anyone can take away, but in order to grab it, they must lose their immoral ways. They cannot shape Christianity to suit an ephemeral/aberrant point in time.

  • Jamie Blank
    • Repeal fake marriage

      Tampered with.

      • Jamie Blank

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_hormones_and_sexual_orientation

        There’s another one for you. There’s plenty of facts about prenatal hormone exposure out there to destroy your “feelings” on the matter. These facts that don’t care about your feelings are published widely beyond the Wikipedia.

        Unlike African crime stats in Melbourne, the stats that deal with homosexuality are real. Being gay and having same sex (or even child sex) attractions is natural. Promoting a ghey debaucherous lefty lifestyle as a viable alternate, while being equal to traditional hetrosexual lifestyle, is not good…

        Let’s be clear here: being gay is just fine. Covering yourself in fluro dildos, walking down the street and claiming this to be a normal lifestyle is not fine.

        • Repeal fake marriage

          ‘Tis not the limp wristed gay I fear,
          But the unholy societal steer
          Of the dicktatorship of perversion,
          ‘Cause next is compulsory conversion,
          An’ I don’t want a dick in my rear.

          • Jamie Blank

            I think we agree.

        • Andrew Thompson

          Well you’d never see me do that, I hate crowds for one

        • entropy

          Monozygotic twins having different sexual preferences is well established fact.

          Still waiting for you to recant your claims about inherent sexuality. Don’t let your feelings get in the way.

          • Jamie Blank

            If you believe that homosexuality is cultural, then you’d also have to believe that all Somalian refugees could become doctors, scientists and engineers with the appropriate environmental conditions. Wow, you probably also believe that indigenous Australian Aboriginals only need to be given schools, houses, football fields and they too can all become doctors, lawyers and engineers.

            The reality is that homosexuality is not cultural. It’s environmental and heavily influenced while the individual is in their mummy’s tummy. The thing of wearing fluro dildos is a perversion deserving of derision.

      • Bucky Redux

        kiddy fiddled

  • Bucky Redux

    A discussion on sodomites and holy church sure gets the discussion going ! Sad in many ways though, as the two subjects should not be related.